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Sentences About The Book.

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Sentences About The Book.

Postby Miatato » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:35 pm

This is a demonstration-by-translation thread. The vocabulary for this first set is somewhat limited, and it is sort of a verb-centric exercise as a whole. Some of these sentences are simpler than others. I am going to suggest that this as a sort of free exercise-- translate it all to demonstrate the grammar you've got in mind, just do one sentence, use dummy words, propose all the words without translating the sentences, or just propose a word that means "book". This is just a starting point for the sake of getting a few things out on the table where we can actually see what they might look like in practice. Have a little fun with it!

I have a book.
There is a book on the table.
Give the book to me!
I gave the book to him.
I always give books to him.
John will give Joe's book to Mary.
Mary, do you have Joe's book?
Mary has given the book to Joe.
Joe has the book that John gave to Mary.
The book isn't on the table. There is no book.
I don't want to talk about books.
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Re: Sentences About The Book.

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby kadani » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:46 pm

I see a few issues here:

zongs breaks the syllable structure we are supposed to have... totxos probably as well.

Iirc, no one argued for marking tenses.

In the first instance, you forgot to mark the secundative. ji au totxos kiudam be dau! If I interpret it correctly.
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Re: Sentences About The Book.

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby kadani » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:54 pm

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby kadani » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:50 pm

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby Miatato » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:25 pm

Perhaps 'zongas' instead of zongs? I liked 'totxos'.
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Re: Sentences About The Book.

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby kadani » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:17 pm

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Re: Sentences About The Book.

Postby Miatato » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:24 am

Let's see what I pull out of the translation so far...

Pronouns:
ji -- I/me
zai -- you
dau -- he/him (or epicene 3rd person?)

Nouns:
kiuda -- book
puai -- table

Verbs:
xomas -- have
totxos -- give
zong(a)s -- to be at/on ?
vios -- want
kolis -- talk

Other Stuff:
be -- to (a recipient)
ua -- about
au -- perfective, as discussed
ga -- habitual?
u -- possessive
zim -- that (opening relative clause)
ing -- is this also related to the relative clause?
a -- I am going to have to think about its use in the question and in the last statement.
vi -- negation, no (as in a zero number of something)
-m -- plurosingular, as discussed

(And poor vo will probably be recycled as something other than future tense.)
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